hugo, violent crime detroit is ranked number two on the fbi's most recent list of the most dangerous cities in america. >> i like detroit. i'm still going. but i hope they hire more cops. >> yes. this is steve, you talk about budget cuts the idea of cutting police and firemen and teachers, there is tangible effects the detroit police association and the city are in the midst of contract negotiations and the new contract calls for a 10% pay cut and 12-hour shifts. >> i think of camden, new jersey. >> $5 cops. >> these were once great american cities that decline is just -- it's painful to read a story like this. >> it would be helpful if multiple police chiefs in detroit weren't busy having sex scandals, that might help a little bit. good leadership. >> abandonment of detroit. i grew up there and left in 1979. when you talk about those counties that bane don the city, when i went back for the super bowl i never seen that many white people in detroit before the riots because they have been, you know, some would say discouraged, pushed out, so you have greed and corruption and with kind